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	<title>Comments on: Browsing habits of screen reader users</title>
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	<description>A pragmatic approach to web standards and accessibility</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dobyde.de &#187; Fangs</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-17705</link>
		<dc:creator>Dobyde.de &#187; Fangs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wurden. Weiter Informationen &#252;ber diesen Aspekt finden sich hier: my previous blog post Â»Browsing habits of screen reader usersÂ». Diese Listen helfen Benutzern von Screen-Readern bei ihrer Navigation zwischen den Seiten einer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wurden. Weiter Informationen &#252;ber diesen Aspekt finden sich hier: my previous blog post Â»Browsing habits of screen reader usersÂ». Diese Listen helfen Benutzern von Screen-Readern bei ihrer Navigation zwischen den Seiten einer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-14220</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeannie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there, great article. I'd love to see a piece that deals specifically with how screen readers view/make sense of search result pages and what can be done to improve the scannability of SERPs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, great article. I&#8217;d love to see a piece that deals specifically with how screen readers view/make sense of search result pages and what can be done to improve the scannability of SERPs.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-4048</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Zephyr's comment but i am sure the next versions will be much much better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Zephyr&#8217;s comment but i am sure the next versions will be much much better</p>
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		<title>By: Text: Barrierefreies Webdesign - XHTMLforum</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-2097</link>
		<dc:creator>Text: Barrierefreies Webdesign - XHTMLforum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Viel kann ich da nicht helfen:  Browsing habits of screen reader users- Standards Schmandards  Da gibts noch ein paar weiterführende Links.    __________________ Grüsse Andreas  Weißraum ist einfach nur Leere. // Weißraum ist strukturierende Eleganz. Was stimmt?   &#62;  Selber lesen, den Artikel von Mark Boulton auf AListApart.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Viel kann ich da nicht helfen:  Browsing habits of screen reader users- Standards Schmandards  Da gibts noch ein paar weiterführende Links.    __________________ Grüsse Andreas  Weißraum ist einfach nur Leere. // Weißraum ist strukturierende Eleganz. Was stimmt?   &gt;  Selber lesen, den Artikel von Mark Boulton auf AListApart.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zephyr</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-1045</link>
		<dc:creator>Zephyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2006 00:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me, or is Jaws a bit lame? The annoying way in which it reads out every dash, even if it's part of an everyday word. I also thought speech synthesis technology had progressed beyond what Jaws 8.0 offers, but I could be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or is Jaws a bit lame? The annoying way in which it reads out every dash, even if it&#8217;s part of an everyday word. I also thought speech synthesis technology had progressed beyond what Jaws 8.0 offers, but I could be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jaws stupidly only lets you either use title or alt for images in anchor tags, and there is no way to say : prefer title over alt; if not title use alt, or equivalent. Very silly, but that's what we got to live with.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaws stupidly only lets you either use title or alt for images in anchor tags, and there is no way to say : prefer title over alt; if not title use alt, or equivalent. Very silly, but that&#8217;s what we got to live with.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2005 12:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Juan, your observation is correct. However, I am using the title attribute in the link to to convey the name of the article. Although this isn't on by default in e.g. Jaws many users enable reading of the title attribute in their screen reader software.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan, your observation is correct. However, I am using the title attribute in the link to to convey the name of the article. Although this isn&#8217;t on by default in e.g. Jaws many users enable reading of the title attribute in their screen reader software.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Carlos</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Juan Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ironically you break some accessibility guidelines on your site even though you write about how say a screen reader can help an end user:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;On your pages you have a lot of "Read more" links. But, if you read this out of context, it is not very helpful.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;A screen reader user scanning via links will not like what you have!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Perhaps what you can do is use the aural CSS class and add some hidden text for each link. Hence, you might have something like this:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&#60;a href="whatever"&#62;Read more&#60;span class="aural"&#62; on article xyz&#60;/span&#62;&#60;/a&#62;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;(notice the space inside the span, not outside, else you'll get an extra space in your link for users using your styled version.)&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Might add to page weight, but may be useful for screen reader users.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironically you break some accessibility guidelines on your site even though you write about how say a screen reader can help an end user:</p>
<p>On your pages you have a lot of &#8220;Read more&#8221; links. But, if you read this out of context, it is not very helpful.</p>
<p>A screen reader user scanning via links will not like what you have!</p>
<p>Perhaps what you can do is use the aural CSS class and add some hidden text for each link. Hence, you might have something like this:</p>
<p>&lt;a href=&#8221;whatever&#8221;&gt;Read more&lt;span class=&#8221;aural&#8221;&gt; on article xyz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</p>
<p>(notice the space inside the span, not outside, else you&#8217;ll get an extra space in your link for users using your styled version.)</p>
<p>Might add to page weight, but may be useful for screen reader users.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2005 09:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Markus, most screen readers use the semantic information of header tags. Other elements are often ignored. There is a discussion on this topic in the comments to my previous post titled &lt;a href="/index.php?2004/10/11/2-standards-wielding-maniacs"&gt;"Standards-wielding maniacs"&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markus, most screen readers use the semantic information of header tags. Other elements are often ignored. There is a discussion on this topic in the comments to my previous post titled <a href="/index.php?2004/10/11/2-standards-wielding-maniacs">&#8220;Standards-wielding maniacs&#8221;</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Thyssen</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2005/browsing-habits/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Thyssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great post! This made me understand the real reason for using header tags. Is Jaws the only application that actually makes use of the semantic information?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! This made me understand the real reason for using header tags. Is Jaws the only application that actually makes use of the semantic information?</p>
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