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	<description>A pragmatic approach to web standards and accessibility</description>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2006 19:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What are your thoughts of the map tag? http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#group-bypass&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I notice that Fangs doesn&#039;t indicate the map tag.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are your thoughts of the map tag? <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#group-bypass" rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10-HTML-TECHS/#group-bypass</a></p>
<p>I notice that Fangs doesn&#8217;t indicate the map tag.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis West</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting Article.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Responding to: &quot;(Quote) However, certain actions such as cloaking, writing text that can be seen by search engines but not by users (...) may result in permanent removal from our index.&quot;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been wondering about how google treats text style with display:none because I&#039;ve been using image replacement on some headlines and headers on my site. I did a search for &quot;Dennis West Design Spokane Washington&quot; which is the text that is hidden and replaced with my logo at the top of my page. Interestingly enough the second result showed that text in the excerpt that google put in my search results. That is text that doesn&#039;t show up on my page but Google is indexing it. It&#039;s a relief to me that that text IS being seen. Now if google is placing less importance on that text, I don&#039;t know, but...&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Sorry if this was a bit off topic, but your article and the comments made me want to try that out.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting Article.</p>
<p>Responding to: &#8220;(Quote) However, certain actions such as cloaking, writing text that can be seen by search engines but not by users (&#8230;) may result in permanent removal from our index.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been wondering about how google treats text style with display:none because I&#8217;ve been using image replacement on some headlines and headers on my site. I did a search for &#8220;Dennis West Design Spokane Washington&#8221; which is the text that is hidden and replaced with my logo at the top of my page. Interestingly enough the second result showed that text in the excerpt that google put in my search results. That is text that doesn&#8217;t show up on my page but Google is indexing it. It&#8217;s a relief to me that that text IS being seen. Now if google is placing less importance on that text, I don&#8217;t know, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry if this was a bit off topic, but your article and the comments made me want to try that out.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian L.</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d imagine that Google wouldn&#039;t delist a site unless the technique was being used maliciously to alter results placement.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Of course, I&#039;m no Google expert.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d imagine that Google wouldn&#8217;t delist a site unless the technique was being used maliciously to alter results placement.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m no Google expert.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm, never thought about the google warning before (see previous comment).  Has anoyone had experience with this, or can anyone vouch for google&#039;s implementation of such a policy?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, never thought about the google warning before (see previous comment).  Has anoyone had experience with this, or can anyone vouch for google&#8217;s implementation of such a policy?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas D.</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great idea, certainly better than all others I&#039;ve seen before.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Just one thing kind of scares me looking at http://www.google.com in this context:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;(Quote) However, certain actions such as cloaking, writing text that can be seen by search engines but not by users  (...)  may result in permanent removal from our index.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea, certainly better than all others I&#8217;ve seen before.</p>
<p>Just one thing kind of scares me looking at <a href="http://www.google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com</a> in this context:</p>
<p>(Quote) However, certain actions such as cloaking, writing text that can be seen by search engines but not by users  (&#8230;)  may result in permanent removal from our index.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh D'Sylva</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Leigh D'Sylva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent article.  I&#039;ve just implemented this on a site I&#039;m developing.  I&#039;m sure somewhere in this article is an answer for &quot;image replacement&quot; with regard to accessibility, but I can&#039;t see it yet.  Any thoughts of a tutorial on this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article.  I&#8217;ve just implemented this on a site I&#8217;m developing.  I&#8217;m sure somewhere in this article is an answer for &#8220;image replacement&#8221; with regard to accessibility, but I can&#8217;t see it yet.  Any thoughts of a tutorial on this?</p>
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		<title>By: scotbot</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>scotbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 11:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;re &lt;strong&gt;visibility:hidden&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yes: this will be invisible to the readers, too. Best to use the &lt;strong&gt;aural&lt;/strong&gt; class instead. Good work!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re <strong>visibility:hidden</strong>:</p>
<p>Yes: this will be invisible to the readers, too. Best to use the <strong>aural</strong> class instead. Good work!</p>
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		<title>By: scotbot</title>
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		<dc:creator>scotbot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2004 10:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What about visibility:hidden? Will that hide the element from a screenreader, too?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about visibility:hidden? Will that hide the element from a screenreader, too?</p>
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		<title>By: MiMaS</title>
		<link>http://www.standards-schmandards.com/2004/the-aural-text-class/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>MiMaS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2004 14:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please also take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility&quot;&gt;ScreenreaderVisibility on css-discuss wiki&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please also take a look at <a href="http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ScreenreaderVisibility">ScreenreaderVisibility on css-discuss wiki</a></p>
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